ESPN’s Haney isn’t all that high on Richt and UGA

Guess which coach won. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Guess which coach won. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

The thrill of victory; the agony of the squib kick. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Last season left me wondering about Georgia, and more specifically about Mark Richt, in a way I hadn’t wondered since September 2011. The no-show in Jacksonville was inexcusable. The squib kick against Georgia Tech was inexplicable. On the one hand, the Bulldogs won 10 games with Todd Gurley missing half the season; on the other, they were the best team in the SEC East and didn’t win it.

I’ve mentioned my growing reservations about Richt as a tactician a time or two, and I’m fairly certain I will again. But today I’ll yield the floor to Travis Haney, who writes for ESPN Insider and is among the most plugged-in writers covering college football. In his latest post, Haney identifies teams he considers good and bad bets to win the national title. His bad bets include Alabama, Clemson, Oregon, TCU — and Georgia.

Haney on the Bulldogs:

On the surface, 25-1 (quoting the Vegas odds) is pretty strong for a team that figures to be a favorite in a weak division — and perhaps even a heavy division favorite. But encounters with grumpy Georgia fans suggest to me there is no discernible reason to believe Mark Richt will ever break through to the CFP pantheon. If SEC supremacy hasn’t happened by now — and especially if it didn’t happen when the Bulldogs needed a mere five yards in 2012 — it ain’t happening at all.

To be fair, Richt and Georgia did achieve conference supremacy — in 2002 and 2005. Nine seasons have passed without an SEC championship, which isn’t half as long as the gap from 1982 (Vince Dooley’s last league title) to 2002 (Georgia’s next and Richt’s first). But Alabama, Auburn, Florida and LSU have taken the SEC at least twice each since the Bulldogs last won, and all four won BCS titles, for which Georgia never played.

But you know all this already. What you didn’t know until now is that our annual long-range college football predictions will be unveiled this weekend, and — spoiler alert — The Guy Who Always Picks Georgia To Win The National Championship (or so the slightly inaccurate label has it) will not be picking Georgia to win the national championship.

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Wreck13
Wreck13

What is the Water Girl doing?

Columbus68
Columbus68

UGA will NOT have the team to compete for or win the NC this season. Nor have they in nearly a decade had a team that should have won it. So do not BASH UGA or their coaches for not winning what they are not supposed to do in the 1st place when the season is over.  They can compete for the East and SEC title BUT unless the defense is a year ahead of schedule, they will likely not win the SEC this year so chill. 2 years from now will be a MUCH different story.  They WILL have the team to FINALLY win it all. RESERVE your hate until then OK?


Columbus68
Columbus68

Richt is finally got a really good DC again and recruiting classes back to back for the 1st time that are going to put UGA at the top. Look for UGA and LSU to play for it all for the next few years and whip Urban Meyers and Jim Harbaughs butts for the NC. Tide got a couple of good years then they are going to fall out the picture and go through a few coaches. UGA will edge out Tenn the next few years, play LSU in the championship and be in the playoffs for 3 out of 4 years. It will likely be 2016 or 2017 before they do but when this class and next years class get their feet under them, with the offensive and defensive coaches on staff....rest of the SEC will be looking up at UGA.  UGA the new beast in the East is abouabout to rise up! The BIG DAWG IS GOING TO FEAST! 

Columbus68
Columbus68

Well Haney and too many UGA fans ARE living in the past and NEED to get with the future. UGA is putting together 2 back to back classes that are the best I have ever seen them put together. Better than ANY since Richt has been there and lets be honest in 2011 UGA did NOT have the team to win it all but still almost did. I would give ALL the credit to Richt because Granthams defense was THE reason they didnot easily win it all.  Other than that UGA NEVER had the team to win it all under Richt except one season and they did not get the chance to play for it. LSU did. UGA stomped Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl and to make up to UGA they were idiotically ranked #1 to start the next season with an obviously weaker team lacking in several areas. UGA has not had the team other than that to win it all. I could see it if they did but did not but they haven't. NOT ONE DAMN YEAS WAS UGA SUPPOSED TO WIN IT.  NOT ONE!  HOWEVER...with these 2 fantastic recruiting classes this year and next, they WILL have the team to win it all in the next 2-4 years. Never seen this good of recruiting in poisitions that matter...especially the lines..so live in the past. Me and Richt and UGA are moving to the future without YOU sorry UGA supporters. Young and DUMB. Get rid of Richt and be the next Florida and Tenn...coach after coach after coach. Remember when you all wanted Muschamp and Smart? Idiots

Wreck13
Wreck13

Richt is a JOKE.............can I get an Ice Cream and jump of the high dive coach?

Stingshuh?
Stingshuh?

It just goes to show you...........it's always something?

RangeRover
RangeRover

I recall how people once said Bobby Bowden, Tom Osborne, Gene Stallings and Mack Brown couldn't win the big one until very late in their careers they did.

Sometimes all the stars have to fall in place as it did for OSU last season and nearly did--and should have done--for Georgia in 2007.



SkokieDog
SkokieDog

@RangeRover Unfortunately, whenever the stars do align for U.Ga., we'll find that Coach Richt has forgotten to bring his sextant.

HeyThere
HeyThere

Am I the only one who has noticed Georgia will be breaking in a new quarterback AND offensive coordinator? Could be a long season in Athens

HeyThere
HeyThere

Georgia will be good but never great as long as Richt walks the sidelines. If he hasn't won a title in 15 years, um, why would it happen now?

Stingshuh?
Stingshuh?

@HeyThere Because Vince did it in his 16th year..........but he had a little help from #'s 34 and 19.

ATL89
ATL89

I love Mark Richt the man, but I've seen enough of his work here to know another SEC Championship is far reaching and a Nat'l Championship is even more far reaching. #GODAWGS!

Ray Goff Anyone?
Ray Goff Anyone?

So who are we going to get better?  Do we really want to jettison him and go start over with the state of the SEC east?  Winning it all takes a lot of luck and we haven't been lucky.  Eason is projected to be the next Stafford.  Do we get rid of Richt now and lose Eason and be in a state of flux for a few years?  Or do we give it a few years, see how it plays out?  I hate losing and the FL/ Tech games last year were ridiculous.  But before we are so quick to pull the plug and go out and get the next great thing (Kirby Smart being our Muschamp) let's see what the new off coord and the def coord. with his personnel can do.

SkokieDog
SkokieDog

@Ray Goff Anyone? McGarity will give it a few more years. I'd have already pulled the plug. After Richt does leave the job, there will not be a significant or prolonged decline for this program. It's built on much more than the current head coach's ability.

Stingshuh?
Stingshuh?

DawgNole........like I said before mam, your a petty little something?........but I do enjoy watching GTBob make you look like the maroon you are, don't recall calling you a lamebrain, but I am a little more of a man than you sally, so I won't resrt to name calling ( I'm going to tell Chippy)........keep making a fool of yourself and as Thomas used to ask....Which end is the dawg?.....lol

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Stingshuh?

Is sally not a name?

It's "ma'am," woman.

It's "you're," lamebrain.

Stop whining. If you want to continue insulting UGA and its fans virtually nonstop, like GTBob, prepare yourself for return fire without your constant complaining about it.

Whatever happened to your butt buddy ThomAss?

Stingshuh?
Stingshuh?

@DawgNole @Stingshuh? butt buddy?.........Mark Bradley, you would think a remark like that might get you banned?.......oh yea, he is half dawg.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Stingshuh?

I responded, but the response has disappeared--as have a number of comments on this blog. Some of them reappear; maybe this one will as well.

Oh yeah, it's "resort," woman.


Truth5678
Truth5678

UGA = going for their 5th straight preseason national championship! GO DAWGS!

Fan66
Fan66

As usual, though, The Georgia fans will be predicting a national championship - lol! they are the eternal optimists.

twelveofthirteen
twelveofthirteen

Really. Show us all when and where that took place? Trolls keep on trolling.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Stingshuh?

Good question, though. The comments seem to be appearing and disappearing on this blog. More AJC format issues, no doubt.

OH*IO
OH*IO

All this Savior Skinny hype is off the charts. 


Nowhere to go but down


The "no comments" continues

OH*IO
OH*IO

@Stingshuh?


Wheaties, no doubt


Breakfast of Champions said Caitlin Jenner

OH*IO
OH*IO

This will be year TEN with  no SEC! SEC! Championship for the dogs. 


DawgNole
DawgNole

@OH*IO

Making stupid predictions again?

Those can come back to haunt you--as you discovered last season.

Just ask GTBob.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Stingshuh? @DawgNole @OH*IO

Like I said, ask GTBob. He confidently and stupidly predicted that GT would lose to UGA. I'm sure both of you thought that was "common sense" as well.

How many predicted Ohio St would beat Bama and Oregon on the way to a NC? Such a prediction certainly wouldn't have made "common sense" last season, but look what happened.

When you combine silly predictions with constant/unending criticism of a school's athletic program (should sound familiar to the three of you), you open yourself up to well-deserved ridicule. Hey, if that's what you like, keep it up. Maybe it'll earn you another ban.

GTBob
GTBob

@DawgNole It takes a very minor bit of courage to make predictions. Sorry that you don't have any. I guess the possibility of blog ridicule if you are wrong is just too much of a burden to risk.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@GTBob @DawgNole

It takes a full load of arrogance and stupidity to make the kind of predictions you post.

And you've earned every bit of the ridicule that's come your way.

Remember, stop lying on blogs.

GTBob
GTBob

@DawgNole I don't even mind taking my medicine if my predictions are wrong. That is part of the fun of sports in general. Frankly, to me sports would be pretty boring if I were afraid to even have opinions.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@GTBob @DawgNole

Why do you continue to lie? Of course you mind. Just look at the past 2 days on here--you're still in obsessive denial about making that typically biased Louisville-over-UGA prediction the day of the Belk Bowl. 

Here's another one of your lies:

___________

GTBob March 11, 2015

Nobody cares if we beat UGA in basketball.

___________

"Nobody"??? Why don't you ask the GT players, coaches, and basketball fans if they care? Liar.

Now, go ahead and grovel again for a link so I can go ahead and tell you again to find it yourself--and to stop lying on blogs if you don't want to be exposed over and over again.

GTBob
GTBob

@DawgNole This one I did say and I 100% meant it. Nobody cares if we beat UGA in basketball. The Louisville one remains a figment of your imagination unless you can provide some proof otherwise.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@GTBob @DawgNole

Look, two lies in one post. You're getting even worse--and you're still in denial.

I don't need to provide any more proof than I already have, liar. You said it--and lied about it yesterday--and now you don't have the guts to own it.

Every one of your lies I've ever posted--and plenty that I haven't yet--you "did say." Never have I lied on a blog. 

And where's your proof that "nobody" cares if GT beats UGA in basketball, lying hypocrite? Just because you "meant it" doesn't make it true. Hell, you've been saying virtually the same thing about football for years--one of your bigger lies.

Stop lying. It doesn't work.



GTBob
GTBob

@DawgNole Find me someone who care about the outcome of the UGA/GT basketball game and I will change my statement to almost no one. As of now its still no one. I don't even know a GT fan who gives two craps about that game.

As for the Louisville thing. Its getting pathetic at this point. You have no proof because it never happened. Just randomly making up a quote and pasting it on a blog isn't catching someone in a lie. I have owned up to everything I have ever said on here. That one I didn't say. You are worse than a liar. You are a lunatic living in his own reality.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@GTBob @DawgNole

Still flailing, groveling, and obsessing over me, GTB, you sick f+++? Embarrassed and desperate now that you've been exposed yet again?

I've already found and posted for you (on this blog) plenty of people who care about UGA-GT basketball--and no, I'm not providing you a link, whiner. Because you don't know them, they don't exist? Is that how it works? Idiot. Stop acting even more ignorant than you are.

As for the Louisville thing, you and your denial are way beyond pathetic at this point. You can deny it all you want--I've never attributed anything to you (or anyone) that you didn't say, and I sure as hell didn't start with your ill-informed prediction on the UGA-L'ville game. In fact, if you hadn't lied about it yesterday, you likely never would've seen it again.

Stop lying; stop denying. You look like an even bigger fool than you normally do.