Irvin wants to join the Falcons. Should they want him?

Seattle Seahawks outside linebacker Bruce Irvin (51) celebrates after sacking New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady during the second half of NFL Super Bowl XLIX football game Sunday, Feb. 1, 2015, in Glendale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

Seattle Seahawks outside linebacker Bruce Irvin (51) celebrates after sacking New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady during the second half of NFL Super Bowl XLIX football game Sunday, Feb. 1, 2015, in Glendale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

Bruce Irvin has his eyes on Flowery Branch. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

The team that hasn’t rushed the passer drafted a promising pass rusher in Round 1 and could be poised to land a semi-proven one no later than next spring. Bruce Irvin, who has had 16 1/2 sacks in three seasons with Seattle, told Samuel Logan of Black Sports Online: “I’m going to be in Atlanta next season.”

Technically, Irvin was in Atlanta when he spoke those words Wednesday night. He was at Philips Arena for Game 5 of the Hawks-Wizards series, and he was — see the picture accompanying Logan’s post — wearing a Hawks cap and a Hawks T-shirt. (Irvin is from Stone Mountain and played at Stephenson High.)

Irvin has been lobbying to come home to play football since Dan Quinn, who was the Seahawks’ defensive coordinator the past two seasons, became the Falcons’ head coach. Rumors of a pre-draft trade circulated but amounted to nothing, but if Irvin waits another season, he can come here without costing the Falcons anything in trade. He’ll be a free agent after the upcoming season.

He’s not pleased about that. He took to Twitter to excoriate the Seahawks after they declined a fifth-year option that would have brought him $7.8 million. (His tweeted sentiments cannot be reproduced in family newspaper.) But now we ask: If Seattle wasn’t overly keen to keep him, should the Falcons be willing to pay big to buy him?

On the one hand, he has those 16 1/2 sacks over three seasons, which by recent Falcons standards would make him the next Lawrence Taylor. By other standards, he’s a former Round 1 pick who has only recently grown into an every-down player and whose best sacking season (with eight) was in 2012. And he’s listed as an outside linebacker, and the Falcons just burned the draft’s eighth overall pick on Vic Beasley. How much money should be earmarked to one position?

The Falcons have lacked a pass rush for so long that the kneejerk reaction is to say, “Come one, come all.” But banking on other people’s players is always a risk. The Seahawks don’t consider Irvin worth keeping for a fifth year at $7.8 million.

If he wants that much in free agency, I’m betting he doesn’t find it here. If he’ll agree to a bit of hometown discount, that’s a different story.

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FootballFan1
FootballFan1

He tried to say that wasn't what he meant. I think he wants to be wherever they are willing to pay him.

vesaversa
vesaversa

Irvin would b a great addition to the Falcon defense Blank  have the money but i doubt they will pay him 7 mil a yr .

syrupmaker
syrupmaker

Trade for Irvin now.  Cut that dead weight we call Kroy.

JSSN
JSSN

1. Stay out of Seattle's business (Wilson's deal), most of you are clueless in terms of what it is going to be.

2. Bruce Irvin played his hand horribly, they will let him walk now and hope he performs well this year  and then next season elsewhere and get the highest value in a compensatory pick. Therefore, if they trade him in-season (like malcontent Percy Harvin), they go bottom shopping to the places that have picks! Carroll has shown, they'll jettison you to NFL Serbia! I doubt that in this case.

3. Trufant's rookie deal is up at the end of 2016, so stop acting you'll have this huge cache of cap (it's considerable, but after Julio reupps, there's the matter of if his bonus is front or back loaded).

4. Irvin is a upgrade, but you won't know if he's going to miss having Bobby Wagner, Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, Chancellor, and Thomas a great deal.

BigCrimson75
BigCrimson75

He didn't play his hand horribly.

He's figured out that 2 yr window in the Outpost known as Seattle has come & gone.

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Once again, great call Coach. :( :( :(

GT71
GT71

NO!

Stick to the plan.

No more (if at all possible) prima-donna, loud-mouth, big-hat-no-cattle, over-the-hill rectal orifices.

Draft players - no more doubtful free agent cruising on our nickel.

gfw
gfw

@GT71 Bruce Irvin over-the-hill?  Mmm.  Here's a little quote from wiki on last season:

"In the 2014 season, Irvin started 15 games for the #1 defense in the NFL. [9] In week 8 against the Carolina Panthers, Irvin recorded back-to-back sacks of quarterback Cam Newton with less than a minute remaining to help preserve a 13-9 victory. The next week, he recorded an interception returned for a touchdown against the Oakland Raiders. He would finish the season strong, recording 3.5 sacks and 2 tackles for loss in the last 6 games of the season, all games won by the Seattle Seahawks. In week 17, he registered 5 total tackles, a sack, forced a fumble, and ran back an interception 49 yards for a touchdown. [10] For the season he had 37 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 4 tackles for loss, a forced fumble, 2 interceptions (both returned for touchdowns) and 3 passes defended."

Delbert_D
Delbert_D

I got sucked in by the headline. I thought this was about Michael Irvin.

charles harris
charles harris

I say yes trade for him as long as it is for a sixth or seventh rd pick and /or a dispensable player (like any previous players on defense except Alford,Trufant,Moore,Hageman) and IF his momma promises to wash out his filthy mouth!!!

CedricM
CedricM

if he wants out of seattle, he's probably over the hill---ATL will overpay because he's a big name like all their other busts

candlin14
candlin14

MArk Bradley, are you serious with this question??? I hope you are not... Not sure if you have seen our defense for our ENTIRE FRANCHISE TENURE HERE IN ATLANTA... ITS AWFUL!!!!


If we were smart, we would have reached out to him this year and made something happen via trade...

GeorgeJuarez
GeorgeJuarez

Hell yeah, for the right money, who knows what shape the defense is going to be in next year, players come and go and how many players have said that they want to play for the Falcons

LMO
LMO

We dont need him, we have the BEERMAN and he's a STUD!! he's had like 4 kids in 4 years... I'd like to see Irvin do that!

John Demerson
John Demerson

you want to leave us irvin...go ahead...SEA-YEAH

Dasdguy
Dasdguy

Are you suggesting Arthur write a blank check?

BLowE12
BLowE12

@JONBONBON He should have some of that National Guard or PSL money leftover to cushion the blow!

jcarson
jcarson

Of course we want this guy if the deal is reasonable and Quinn likes him.  Nobody should know better than Quinn how good his is.  And I love it when guys come in with chip on their shoulder like he seems to have against Seahawks.

We_Will_Get_Fooled_Again
We_Will_Get_Fooled_Again

The Seahawks are about to have to pony up to make Russell Wilson one of the richest players in the NFL. That could have as much to do with their refusal to pay Irvin as anything else.

That said, Irvin is putting the Falcons in a bit of an awkward position. If the revamped linebacking corps dramatically improves this year, there might not be a need for Irvin. He is a very good player, but there's no telling what our roster will look like 9 months for now.

BLowE12
BLowE12

@We_Will_Get_Fooled_Again Awkward would not be the word I would use.. Cat Bird is more what I would say! As we already know he wants to be here, weather we "could use" him or not is an ideal position!

read this
read this

@gfw   is synergy something like a quarterback being between a rock and a hard place ?

gfw
gfw

@read this @gfw Good analogy.  A couple of our opponents did it to Ryan last year.  I was surprised on one occasion that he could get up.

gfw
gfw

Definition of "synergy": "the interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects."

Like having Harrison and Woodley rushing the passer for the Steelers a few years ago.  Great synergy---including distress, confusion, and panic in the offense---was created by that.

Beasley coming from one side, Irvin from the other.  At the right price, I love the idea.

BLowE12
BLowE12

@gfw And Hageman, Babineaux and Collins in the middle to add!

SomewherenSGa
SomewherenSGa

sometimes the seahawks are not keen at all like passing the ball when you have Lynch was a stupid decision.

58Supersports
58Supersports

If the price is right... yes!

How often do you hear a player (Braves, Hawks, Falcons) want to play for Atlanta teams?

Thanks Mark for info...

BLowE12
BLowE12

@williar you can only have too many passers!! Or was that too many wives?? 

ChuckinAlpharetta
ChuckinAlpharetta

The Seahawks legendary depth is a result of drafting talented players, exhausting their rookie deals, and letting them walk when they are ready either for huge extensions or their first free-agent contracts.


They let other teams overpay while they laugh all the way to the Super Bowl.


Their huge challenge is as we are seeing now during negotiation's with Russell Wilson - his tiny middle-round rookie deal is what afforded them so much cap room everywhere else. They were incredibly lucky to be getting top-flight QB play from such a low cap hit.


The proven talent they will have to shed to keep him and his far larger contract (and the Irvin decision was a huge part of it) will be one of their biggest challenges to staying on top.

BLowE12
BLowE12

@ChuckinAlpharetta To Add... Irvin is more upset about not receiving the 7.8 Million that is a significant bump in pay for him. However, that does not mean he will DEMAND a contract in this neighborhood. 


I am one that would like to know how much he would cost and if it is reasonable, heck yeah bring him in!

Old Fan
Old Fan

@ChuckinAlpharetta  Perhaps other fans are as astute, but comments to date suggest (strongly) otherwise. We should give the new coach and staff time to draft and develop players. That has been the only successful model for long term success in the NFL.

mr spanky
mr spanky

Middle-aged linebacker?  Irvin is 27.  You can never have too many pass rushers.

sansho1
sansho1

@mr spanky He'll be turning 29 during the 2016 season, which is when we'd get him.  And we'll probably be paying him top dollar for what he did when he was 26.  Same as we've done over and over again in the last decade.  How's that been working out? 

sansho1
sansho1

Of course he wants to come here.  Overpaying for middle-aged linebackers is totally the Falcons move.

DawgnIT
DawgnIT

Until an Atlanta team wins another championship I don't think the local media, fans, or teams are in a position to say we don't need a proven talent.


It seems that anytime a talented player could be a target for an Atlanta team people rush to be the first to say "we don't need him" or even question "do we really need him?"  


Until the current rosters prove that they can win championships we need all the help we can get.