Georgia Tech basketball hits a new low (28 points in 40 minutes)

For the Jackets, a night of frustration. (Andrew Shurtleff/AP photo)

For the Jackets, a night of frustration. (Andrew Shurtleff/AP photo)

For the Jackets, a night of frustration. (Andrew Shurtleff/AP photo)

Georgia Tech scored 28 points against Virginia on Thursday, the Jackets’ most meager output since the 1946-47 season, when there was no 3-point shot and Billy Packer was in grade school. Two other teams — Rutgers with 26 points, Harvard with 27 — have fared even worse against these unrelenting Cavaliers, but we’ll let other outlets worry about those programs. Back to Tech.

Had Virginia not scored after halftime, the Jackets wouldn’t necessarily have won. The game would have been tied at 28 headed to overtime. Even as we ask, “What does it say about a program that can’t manage more points in 40 minutes than a good team does in 20?”, we know the answer: Nothing good.

Tech is 52-61 in three-plus seasons under Brian Gregory. The Jackets have made a big deal out of needing to get to the NIT this season — they haven’t yet played beyond the ACC tournament under this coach — but when did the NIT become even a medium-sized deal?

In his first four seasons here, Gregory’s predecessor made the NCAA tournament twice (and the NIT once, just for the record). In Year 4 under Paul Hewitt, Tech played UConn for the national championship. In Year 4 under Gregory, the Jackets are 0-6 in ACC play. At no point in Hewitt’s careening tenure did the Jackets go three consecutive seasons without reaching the NCAA, which is now a distant light.

When Hewitt was fired in 2011, his career ACC record play was 72-104 (a winning percentage of .409). Gregory’s ACC record is 16-42 (a winning percentage of .276). Granted, Hewitt left a mess for Gregory, but Hewitt inherited a program in disarray from Bobby Cremins and had it in the Big Dance 11 1/2 months later. And here’s the real kick in the gut:

Hewitt’s final four seasons at Tech — the ones that convinced Dan Radakovich to pay $7 million to make his coach go away — yielded a record of 62-65 overall and 21-43 in ACC play. The worst of Hewitt has been better than the best, at least so far, of Gregory.

It’s possible these Jackets could salvage a little something from their season: They have six games remaining against teams with losing ACC records, and they play middling North Carolina State here next week. If they win all of those, they’d be 16-14 overall headed to the ACC tournament, and that would put them on the bubble — for the NIT. But when getting to a tournament that doesn’t matter is the measuring stick, your program has ceased to matter.

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L hen
L hen

The reason he should be fired now is that we need to get a replacement coach in as soon as possible. Extending him last year was pure insanity.   He is almost as bad as Dwayne Morrison and cannot touch the achievements of Hewitt, or Cremins.  Cremins is the best coach that Tech has ever had!!  Understand, this is Gregory's recruits and what he has on tap for next year is bad and getting worse.  Cannot recruit blue chippers and there is no future for this coach, except excuses.  

L hen
L hen

Gregory should be fired this week. Terrible coach, and good person. 

all_i_am_saying_is
all_i_am_saying_is

HIRE BEN HOWLAND!  He took UCLA to three consecutive final fours.  He can't be worse than Gregory who is obviously in way over his head.


By the way, Bradley is so full of it.  He was one of the chief advocates for ousting Hewitt.  Then when it occurred, he tried to talk about how sad it was.  Crocodile tears.  


Hope you Hewitt haters are happy.



GTBee
GTBee

About time to give Gregory another contract extension no? Seemed odd - after only 2 years - GT gave him an extension?   Show him the door when his contract expires.   Any idea when that is?   He truly stinks.

GT-UT
GT-UT

I went to the BC game the other day and here are my impressions:

1)  There is some talent on this GT Basketball Team and they play hard.  No give up.

2)  There are some solid defensive and rebounding fundamentals instilled in the team (that was refreshing)

3)  The Offense is terrible.  No motion, wasted motion, playing tentative, lost steps = slow play, little explosion as a unit.  I fault CBG.  In bounds plays were awful...no attack.  The middle was abandoned and that looks like poor game planning.  Cox is a beast and could have fouled out BC's big man.


Gregory is a good man.  He seems honest and respectable.  In my very humble opinion, he's not getting the job done.  Recruiting is NOT what it should be and overall game play is miles away from top tier.  Error clean up looks non-existent and the guys look like they don't know where to go and why.  I liken it to CPJ saying how a Defense needs to play fast, period.  The best scheme is useless unless the guys play fast.  Our guys need a higher Basketball IQ with the confidence to explode within the system and use their God given ability to their full potential.  I'm not seeing that with CBG.  Contrast GT style with the Hawks...team coupled with explosion plays.  

upwithwhiteandgold
upwithwhiteandgold

do not know why phone calls are not going out to the GT supporters to take up a collection to get this clown out of GT.  I was one that never wanted him at GT in the first place.  He learned from Izzo, big whoopty do.  Then move to MSU although they would not return Gregory's phone call.  What the moron should have done was hired one of the great former GT players to give this nobody wisdom but in four years just couldn't do it.  Who is to blame?  The GTAA and the employees that have hung around over 20 years plus.  Time to go.  DRAD can also go to ____ but he did the next best thing he went to Clemson.  


Thought I would be reading about an interim coach by now.  If Bobinski cannot do it then contact the GT President.  Why are they ignoring this?  


The shame of it all is that there are players that deserve so much better and the GTAA LET THEM DOWN.  Fans have too if you do not voice your opinion.  


Plenty of talented coaches and former great GT players to interim.  Not to mention Brandon Gaudin's contact with the former Butler coach.  


SportsTopFan
SportsTopFan

28 points in a modern day college basketball game is  "p a t h e t i c"  !!!


The Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets and their coach should be ashamed.

Sonic The HedgeHog
Sonic The HedgeHog

This is Sonic the Palm Reader here. I see 3 BB head coaches pay in your yellow bugs future. Your team is so terrible and all the midget can say is well we beat UGA. Yeah well you can't beat them now! UGA would beat the yellow maggots by 20, or maybe we just won't let Kenny and JJ play to give you a chance.  hahahaha love to see you squirm...

gt1995
gt1995

This team has talent. This coach simply cannot get them "over the hump". Not sure what it is, but something just isn't right.


The one thing you can say about Coach Gregory is that unlike other teams going through a difficult losing streak, the players have not given up. After all of the close losses AND the embarrassment at UVa, it would be easy for the kids to go in the tank. They haven't. Outside of UVa, the losses are by an average of about 4 points. That mean one or two 50/50 balls going your way during the game could have changed the outcome.


Had the Jackets gotten some of those breaks and were 4-3 rather than 0-7, would we be calling for the Coach's head? Not sure, but probably not.


Here is the good thing about the whole situation... Bobinski came from a school that had Basketball as it's top priority. While he needed more of a wait and see approach with evaluating the football team, he understands what a good program looks like. I hope that experience will enable him to make a great choice for the next coach as I cannot see ANY way Gregory survives the season.


In fact, if I were the AD, I would fire Gregory now and openly begin the search.

Jacket Detective
Jacket Detective

Due to poor AD decisions, if Gregory is fired after this season, Tech will pay Hewitt 1.7 million a year (2 years left) and Gregory 1.3 million a year (3 years left). Then the next coach's salary will get the amount for current and past head coaches to 4 to 5 million. For that much we should have someone the quality of coach K.

Ellong0
Ellong0

noodles neal or archie miller - can't believe we would possibly hire another dayton coach but weirder thing happen - clinton vs bush for president!!!  gregory has to go and can't believe we owe him to do so - how much do we we him? 

jimbob22
jimbob22

Maybe Gregory should see if the NCAA will let Kaela Davis play for his team.

TNFlyerFan
TNFlyerFan

As one who followed Dayton under BG... no surprise.  He had a few good years due to some great talent that was under-utilized.  The mark of a BG coached team is a tied game with one minute to go... and the players not having a clue what to do with the ball.  I watched it for years.  The difference now is that you guys are never tied near the end of a game.   Too bad... just stay away from our current coach, Archie Miller!!! 

BigTimeJacketFan
BigTimeJacketFan

Thought an Izzo guy would do pretty good here, but I guess not.  A good coach will also "steal" two or three games a year.  He does not do that.  Dayton seemed to get better after he left.


Thought C. Dollar would really bring in some big recruits, but no go.  What does he do for the team?


I believe we play too many people (promised minutes ??); that leads to continuity problems.  Kind of like Hewitt.


Should not be this hard to put together a solid ACC team in Atlanta.



BeavusB'head
BeavusB'head

I say Gregory needs to take his Tech team over to Phillips arena and scrimmage the Hawks on their off days. Maybe they can learn how to be a "team".
 Right now, they look EXACTLY like the Hawks of old with Josh Smith taking 3 pointers every 4th or 5th time down the floor. Its just lazy and uninspiring basketball, and that is what GT is right now.

An American Patriot
An American Patriot

I didn't even know they were still playing basketball and obviously the AJC doesn't want anyone in Metro Atlanta to know, either.  The coverage of GT BB by the AJC is atrocious but, then again, everything is.  Not trying to change the subject or anything but, when does FOOTBALL Practice start?

BillHaley
BillHaley

The worst thing for a program is when the fan base just doesn't care any more and that's where this basketball program is. I had the chance to watch Ga a Tech vs UVA but instead watched the NC state vs Miami contest. I chose wisely. When does Spring football start at GT??

Guyon
Guyon

Radakovitch borrowed too much money and left Tech with a loan burden of about $15 million per year. He could not afford to pay for a topnotch coach, and hired Gregory. Gregory won a lot of games at Dayton against weak teams. Dayton's new coach has built a good team that beat Tech this season. Radakovitch knew he would be leaving Tech when he hired Gregory.  

Birmingham__Jacket
Birmingham__Jacket

It's basketball... Just a way to kill some time before spring practice begins in football.  I hope we don't make a huge mistake and dig ourselves into a financial hole by throwing a lot of $ at a new BB coach.  Save that $ and appropriate it to building a really solid football coaching staff.

Sonic The HedgeHog
Sonic The HedgeHog

@Birmingham__Jacket Football will be back to normal next year when you squeak out 3 ACC wins and beat 4 nursing homes to become bowl elligible. UGA will start another 7 year streak next year, think man boobs will be around to see the end of that.....probably not.

Zapp
Zapp

Gregory had multiple losing seasons before being hired by Tech.  I have to question the knowledge and integrity of the athletic department to even consider him.  There is something more important than the losses, the team does not respect the head coach, and that means nothing but misery for the program.  This is the worst coaching staff since Dwayne Morrison was here.  That is truly as low as the program can go.

BooBooBear
BooBooBear

It can get lower if Bradley becomes the GATech BB beat writer.  They could get shutout and like a tree falling in the woods with no one around ... it wouldn't matter.  No one would hear about it.


When is your retirement party Mark?

DaveCorbin
DaveCorbin

They play like a not so good high school team.

DrTruth
DrTruth

Have lost all respect for Gregory after watching him lose the close games this year.  The absolute FIRST thing he should do is forbid all 3 pt shooting.  In the last couple of minutes of the Syracuse game, the final 3 shots taken by GT were 3 pt shots (all misses) and at that time GT was 351 out of 351 teams in 3 pt shooting.  GT went 3 for 27 on 3 pt shots and lost 46-45.  Gregory was calling timeouts and calling plays down the stretch...


VA game we go 0 for 12 for 3s......I'm not saying we win anything playing only a 2 pt game.  But what kind of moron coach doesn't "outlaw" 3 pt shooting when your team is 349 out of 351 in that performance category?????

JD Osterman
JD Osterman

Someone needs to take Tech basketball behind the shed and put it out of our misery.


TaxiSmith
TaxiSmith

Come on Tech! We old time Atlanta fans need you to step up.

usjacket
usjacket

Our once proud program is irrelevant and embarrissing. Time for a new coach NOW!

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

GT basketball has been at a Div III level ever since Cremins and his recruits were gone. Hewitt and Gregory have done irrepairable damage to the program since then that may take 10+ years to overcome. The road to recovery needs to start soon with the firing of Gregory.

Junior4872
Junior4872

@GeorgeJetsen I didn't know D-III teams played for national championships. You can't be a real Techie.

GTDude
GTDude

there is not a chance in Hades that this coach will be able to salvage the season.

Not sure there is any advantage of firing Gregory mid season, unless there is some other coach out there that is not working this season....

khd713
khd713

So, what's all this commotion about basketball? Doesn't everybody know Tech is a football school, anyway. Let's let the basketball schools like UGA worry about that silly little game. On North Avenue, it's all football all the time. Amiright?

Lowcountry Jacket
Lowcountry Jacket

@khd713 Appreciate the sarcasm ^, but Tech is and has historically been a football school.  From the earliest days of playing on Grant Field to about 1979, this was certainly true.  And it still is.  A couple things changed the perception among younger people and outsiders: (#1) Tech joining the ACC in 1980 (a basketball conference in those days, and arguably still a basketball conference), and (#2) Cremins' bringing Tech basketball to national prominence.  Those two things coincided with Tech's slide from being a perennial football powerhouse to relative mediocrity.  In the '70s and early '80s, both the Tech football and basketball programs were mediocre to bad. 

As popular as basketball was at Tech under Cremins -- and still continued to be under Hewitt -- most sports-minded students and alums, if given a choice, would rather have a stellar football season at Tech and beat Georgia if it meant having a losing basketball season in exchange, and not the other way around.  The fight songs center around Tech football.  When people see the Ramblin' 'Reck, it's the football program that comes to mind, not the basketball team.  The gold Model-A rolls out onto Grant Field prior to games, not onto the court at the Alexander Coliseum, McDonald's Center, or whatever the new building is called now. 

At a school like Duke, they appreciate having an improved football team, but if their basketball team started doing bad, it would be the end of the world for them.  Kentucky tolerates a poor football program as long as their marquee basketball program is doing well.  You can tell which program is more important to a school by which games hurt the most to lose.  Tech could lose to UGA in baseball or basketball ten years in a row, and it wouldn't hurt the same as the football team losing 13 out of the past 15 years to Georgia... 

Sonic The HedgeHog
Sonic The HedgeHog

@khd713 Not sure about being right, maybe a little drunk after one very lucky season....lighting does not strike twice...

Caius
Caius

"...your program has ceased to matter."

That is it in a nutshell.  The Georgia Tech baskeball program is where the UGA basketball program was when Fox was hired, it simply did not matter. Give Fox a lot of credit, he is slowly making a solid program at UGA.


Now GT has to start over.  The only saving thought is that the AD at GT is experienced in hiring excellent basketball coaches.

ToeMeetsLeather
ToeMeetsLeather

@Caius  Very slowly for Fox, he is 0-4 against four bad Tech teams. Tech would probably be undefeated against Georgia's SEC schedule to date. It's all in who you play. We stink, but are 2-0 against the SEC.


You are correct, Bobinski will turn this thing around. ACC, MaCamish, Atlanta, we'll be back at some point. I just hope I'm here to witness it. 

Jim70
Jim70

What happens to great or even good shooters when they come to tech? 


On the positive side, defense is mostly good, TO's are down, rebounding up and FT shooting decent.  just need to find somebody to put a ball in the basket more often than not.  give a scholarship to the best shooter in high school and tell him he can shoot to his heart's content as long as 50% go in.

TEB1
TEB1

Brian Gregory is a nice guy and he does a fine job representing this excellent Institution, but if Bobinski waits until Monday of next week to fire him, it will be too late.

JacketTime
JacketTime

I use to be such a strong supporter of Gregory but now I've lost all hope. It is depressing to watch GT basketball now. Kids have no confidence and that is a reflection of the leadership. Star recruits have shown limited improvement, again that falls on the coach.

If this were football the 4-0 record vs uga would lock in CBG's job but we need more in bb like at least a postseason appearance and multiple wins over top ranked teams. Right now GT basketball is just tough to watch. Especially feeling like there is no future for the program.

I blame Radakovich for a terrible decision and then bailing....

NJJacket83
NJJacket83

I completely agree, where has Point Guard "U" gone?  The season is all but over, starting 0-6 in ACC play is just horrible, no post season for us this year.  Gregory plays to many people in a game, our point guard play has been terrible, we're a team made up of transfers, our pipeline is completely empty.  We have only one person that will take a shot at the end of the game and so on and so on.  A terrible team in total.  Time to make a coaching change!!

dontstereotypemeyo
dontstereotypemeyo

Still say that Hewitt was gotten rid of prematurely. A lot of folks thought that it was still the 80s and 90s when the high schools were still producing good talent in abundance, guys generally listened to their coaches and stayed in school at least 2 years and usually 4 years. Now, the culture has broken down so badly that high schools produce only a fraction of quality basketball players that they used to, and most of those only stay in school a year or two, and when they do go to college it is only to a handful of top programs. Hewitt wasn't the best coach - but then again neither was Cremins by the way - but at least he understood that A. basketball has NEVER been big in Georgia (either high school, college or the NBA) and the salad days of the sport with Lew Alcindor, Larry Bird, Danny Ferry etc. were never coming back. Do you think that Michael Jordan would have put up with 3 years in Dean Smith's triangle in today's culture? Of course not. And it is on the verge of getting worse, not better, as some of our top high school players are actually going to play in Europe now. They are graduating high school, playing for 3-4 years in Europe for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and then entering the NBA draft. That's the route that the Kenny Andersons and Stephon Marburys of the future are going to take. Hewitt understood that, and the Georgia Tech fans who kept calling him a PC affirmative action hire and demanded his ouster didn't. So go ahead, fire Gregory if you want, but the next guy won't have it any easier getting kids to attend a football school in a football state that requires them to take physics, chemistry and calculus to stay eligible. 

TEB1
TEB1

@dontstereotypemeyo No, Hewitt needed to go; the problem here was there either wasn't enough money to make a decent hire, or Rad made an a terrible choice. There has been zero player development in the past 6 or 7 seasons of GT basketball.

GTBob
GTBob

@dontstereotypemeyo Prematurely? After 11 years? Do us a favor. Take a look at the last 4 years of Hewitt's tenure at GT and the first 4 years of his tenure at George Mason and try to give us a compelling argument for why GT would be a good basketball program if he were still here. He has been an awful basketball coach for a while now.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

@dontstereotypemeyo 

Any college coach who is relying on his contacts with HS coaches to recruit b'ball players has a problem

The action is all at AAU

juvenal
juvenal

We were on probation for a low apr after the new rules kicked in".........

Junior4872
Junior4872

@dontstereotypemeyo Hewitt was good for an NBA Lottery Level recruit and an NCAA berth every 2-3 years, but if that wasn't good enough for you, he wasn't the man for the job. Gregory is not getting any guys like Bosh, Young, or Favors and he is not good for a CBI berth every 2-4 years. Hewitt might was inconsistent, but going to Gregory was a downgrade.

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