Assessing the playoff chances of … Georgia Tech? Why, yes

Chris Milton heads for the proverbial house. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Chris Milton heads for the proverbial house. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Chris Milton heads for the proverbial house. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Chris Milton heads for the proverbial house. (Hyosub Shin/AJC photo)

Georgia Tech has clinched a share of first place in the ACC Coastal Division. Should Duke lose either to North Carolina on Thursday or to Wake Forest on Nov. 29, the Jackets will play Florida State for the conference title. Should that happen, these would be Tech’s final three games: A 28-6 victory over Clemson, ranked No. 22 by the College Football Playoff committee; a road test at Georgia, ranked No. 10, and then a date in Charlotte with Florida State, ranked No. 3.

The Jackets, ranked No. 18 by the committee, will be pronounced underdogs against Georgia and would be against Florida State. But what if they won both games? What if a team that really hadn’t beaten anybody as of Nov. 14 closed by beating Clemson, Georgia and FSU? Would that propel Tech into the top four?

Probably not, according to Brad Edwards, who parses the playoff for ESPN. “With Georgia Tech, we’ll have to wait and see,” he said this week. “If they beat Georgia, where will they be ranked at that point? I just don’t know if they’d be close enough for it to matter (going into the ACC title tilt).”

But wouldn’t a victory over Florida State, which hasn’t lost since November 2012, be an attention-getter? Said Edwards: “I don’t know that there’s a lot of respect for Florida State at this point. So many teams have almost beaten them. If Georgia Tech should do it, I think the reaction would be, ‘Finally.’ ”

Even as we note that there’s no knowing what a committee that has no history will do, we must also note the obvious. It has been assumed since September that the only ACC team with a shot to make the four-team field is Florida State. Simply beating FSU — not that beating FSU would be simple — mightn’t be enough to lift Tech above a berth in the Orange Bowl, where the Jackets could wind up anyway.

“The ACC is the weakest of the power leagues,” Edwards said. Even a one-loss FSU probably wouldn’t land in the playoff grid. A two-loss Georgia Tech wouldn’t appear to have a realistic shot.

That said, after the consecutive October losses to Duke and North Carolina, who thought Tech would be in the conversation for anything above the Belk Bowl?

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SinceVince
SinceVince

This Format stinks and is too busy. Difficult to Navigate! Thanks AJC!

22Shamburger
22Shamburger

Can ANYBODY be as STUPID as David PoLOCK? What a STUPID MUTT IDIOT.

oldie goldie
oldie goldie

Mark, enjoyed the article. It is fun just to be having this conversation. Go Jackets

22Shamburger
22Shamburger

Do you know WHY Bobo and Richt don't use VIAGRA? It is because they don't want to have anything that good to last 4 hours...like a Football Game.

Rick_James
Rick_James

@22Shamburger 


Did you read this before you pressed enter? Awful..Now we know who writes for Paul Johnson.

Born2Buzz
Born2Buzz

Ahh, another "WnE/RuePaul/Whatever this months incarnation is" sighting.  

Finally found something you could possible denigrate GT football about again.  Not sure what it is because I don't really read what you post.  What a maroon!

PigIron
PigIron

Oh well... I see now why Mark Bradley doesn't like to write articles about Tech.

Then again, clicks is clicks -- even if they're only flame war clicks.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@PigIron Just nice to be included in the conversation............and i hope for a speedy recovery for Mark..........whatever he is enjoying.

22Shamburger
22Shamburger

@dawg fan after that post, does it make you feel better about TROLLING a TECH Blog?

dawg fan
dawg fan

@PigIron  He doesn't like to write articles about Tech because nobody cares about Tech.  If people cared they wouldn't play most of their games on ESPN3. 

PigIron
PigIron

@gtcaryd

You might recall that I challenged Mark Bradley to write this column the last time he wrote about UGA's chances to make the CFP.

Neither team has a realistic shot at it, but neither is either team yet mathematically eliminated. I'm surprised that there hasn't been more written about the state championship, what with both teams having only 2 losses this late in the season. Unlike with conference or national championships, both teams have a realistic shot at winning the State Championship.

dawg fan
dawg fan

@gtcaryd @dawg fan  Yes, I'm very concerned about a team that has beaten my team once in 14 years.


Shaking in my boots.

Rick_James
Rick_James

@dawg fan @PigIron 


LOL!! And they would sell out their stadium. And let's not forget to thank them for returning a portion of their allotment for the UGA game next week. They have a real shot in the game but their fans have better things to do. We know Super, you don't want to sit among our fans

ATLgirlinSTL
ATLgirlinSTL

@gtcaryd @dawg fan I think what U[sic]GA fans are forgetting is that the last team to bring "Their State" a National Championship Title were the Jackets.... Who runs this state again?

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@dawg fan @PigIron 

Hmmm, this coming from a dwag fan posting on a blog about Tech.  Sounds like somebody cares.  And we have only played once on ESPN3 this year, which is the same as Georgia.  NEXT

dawg fan
dawg fan

There have been several ACC Chumpions with 3 or more losses.  That is why conference champs will never get an automatic invite to the playoffs.  You'd see a lot of 70-33 kind of scores like we saw with Clemson a few years back.  FSU is on a nice little run right now but as soon as its over it will be back to the same craptastic ACC football we've all grown to love and laugh at.


Chump teams from a chump conference do not belong in the playoffs.  End of story.

dawg fan
dawg fan

@GTBob @dawg fan  Yes, so rare that's it only happened 4 times in the BCS era:


2002 FSU (Won the ACC with 4 losses)

2005 FSU (Won the ACC with 4 losses)

2008 VT (Won the ACC with 4 losses)

2011 Clemson (Won the ACC with 3 losses)


I'm sure everyone would love to risk having chumps like this in the playoffs by giving conference champions an automatic invite.


Good luck selling everyone on that Techies.

GTBob
GTBob

@dawg fan I agree. Teams from the SEC East have no business in playoff discussion. That is what you meant, right?

dawg fan
dawg fan

@GTBob @dawg fan  They don't this year.  If they come through with one or no losses of course they do.  I don't think we deserve to go the playoffs this year.


Nice try Bob.

GTBob
GTBob

@dawg fan Yep. 4 times in the last 20 years. Happens all the time.

dawg fan
dawg fan

@GTBob @dawg fan  It happens enough that conference champions will not be getting an automatic invite until the ACC is no longer one of those conferences.


That's my point and, as usual, you have done absolutely nothing to refute it.

GTBob
GTBob

@dawg fan You created a magical number of losses that the ACC very rarely falls into and you want to use it as a hard line number for playoff eligibility. Its all made up non sense. There is nothing to refute. We aren't the only conference that has a 3 loss champion once every 5 years or so. It would happen more often in the SEC if your teams had the balls to play real OOC games.

GTVille
GTVille

A playoff could be the Power 5 conference champs only.  Seeds 4-5 play with the winner facing #1.  Leave the politics to politicians and play football on the field.  Just because B12 and B10 fans and press say the ACC is the weakest conference does not make it true.  The B12 has the worst OOC record, but Ivan Manziel, ESPN, fails to mention this in his go B12 articles.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

Don't you guys find it interesting that "nobody wants Johnson," but there are a helluva lot of schools out there that sure want (and have gotten) his assistants.  That says a whole helluva lot to me.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

I repeat, simply for the obviously uninformed (or willfully stupid), that Johnson's record is the best since Dodd----an average of 8+ wins per season.  His win-loss ration is second only to O'Leary.  I would say that's a pretty good "body of work."

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

The latest on The Swarm, from the moderator, who apparently has inside knowledge at Tech ---


"I was told he wanted more help in the recruiting office...we are up to 3 but we are still under staffed compared to others.

Was also told that he wants this to be his (likely) last contract and that he wants to win it all...when he met with MBob I was told that he was going to ask for what he felt he needed to win it all...and recruiting front and staff support were two of the main things...my source said the $$$ money donors were on CPJs side.

Said he feels CPJ has 5-7 years left max."

RuePaulJohnson
RuePaulJohnson

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

It obvious that the big $$$ donors at GT don't know crap about Power-5 CFB if they think he's the right guy to lead GT FB.

We are actually considering re-upping a guy that has only gone 1-5 vs. UGA and could easily be 1-6 after this season is done.

Think about this, Chan got fired for losing 6 IAR ro UGA, but we might re-up CPJ for losing 6 IAR to UGA.

It  seems to me like GT's standards and expectations for our FB Program have gone way down since CPJ became the HC.

GTRay
GTRay

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

Because of inherent recruiting limitations (e.g., Succeeding at Tech is hard, and I don't want that to change.  Ever.), we've been recruiting with an arm and a leg tied behind our backs.  Increasing the number of recruiting staff will at least give us back the use of that leg.  It won't completely level the playing field, but it would certainly help.

RuePaulJohnson
RuePaulJohnson

@GTBob @RuePaulJohnson

CPJ has coached in a much weaker Era of ACC FB than Chan did, only in the last 3 years has FSU returned to the normal FSU we expect and GT  only plays them once every 8 years.

Winning seasons in the chitty ACC means little to nothing among the Nat'l Landscape of CFB.

GTBob
GTBob

@RuePaulJohnson Chan only had one season where he won more than 7 games. CPJ is having his 4th season of more than 7 wins. Chan never won a conference title. CPJ has. Chan only played in one conference championship game. CPJ will be on his third if UNC wins tonight. Chan only had 2 seasons with a winning record in ACC play. CPJ has had 6. 

Its not all about UGA.

GTBob
GTBob

@RuePaulJohnson Regardless of your opinion of the ACC, winning more ACC games is better than winning less ACC games. Also, Chan Gailey only played FSU twice.

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