In this season of no hitting, the Braves are no-hit

The Braves managed the same number of hits against each of these four. (John Bazemore/AP)

The Braves managed the same number of hits against each of these four. (John Bazemore/AP)

The Braves managed the same number of hits against each of these four. (John Bazemore/AP)

Labor Day brought a logical culmination to the five months that had come before. The Atlanta Braves were no-hit by four Phillies pitchers, the first of whom — Cole Hamels, who can be great — wasn’t terribly great by his standards. He walked five and hit a batter in six innings, after which he retired, having thrown 108 pitches.

The Braves did nothing — not against Hamels, not against the three relievers who followed him. A season spent doing little on offense reached a nadir in its 138th game. No runs, no hits, no chance.

Ready for the really weird part? Until Ben Revere lined Julio Teheran’s final pitch over Jason Heyward’s head for a three-run triple in the seventh, the Braves were in it. Their starting pitching was again very good. But that starting pitching, which has worked a big-league-best 97 quality starts, saw yet another strong outing amount to nothing. As the saying goes, you can’t win games 0-0. (Although the Braves did win 1-0 Sunday.)

They’ve scored one run in 27 innings, which even by Braves standards is pathetic. They pushed five men into scoring position in the first three innings Monday. Didn’t matter. The team that entered the game 29th in the majors in runs again proved its worth, or lack thereof.

Through eight innings, the Braves left more men on base than the Phillies, who would wind up scoring seven runs. The Braves had their chances, and afterward both Fredi Gonzalez and Chris Johnson averred that they’d fashioned some good at-bats. Good AB’s, perhaps. But zero R’s. And zero H’s. Holy mackerel.

From myajc.com: The Braves, who can’t hit, are actually no-hit.

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MikeS777
MikeS777

I'll be the first to say from day one I thought the Braves overpaid for BJ and Uggla.  I thought that before they even took their first swing, especially BJ Upton.  But the fact is LM does not give them the money they need to bid for better bats than those guys, so they end up overpaying just to get something in the door.

Maybe you argue its better to do nothing.  In hindsight, its easy to do that.  But the fact still remains they just don't have the funds available to shoot for better than second or third tier guys on the market.  The Yankees are paying McCann $17 million this year.  That's along with giving Ellsbury over $21 million and Beltran $15 million this year to come in as free agents.  The Braves couldn't come close to that even if they wanted McCann back, even if Gattis wasn't available.

People just have to come to grips that the days of bringing in the big time all stars in addition to keeping all our other talent are over.  The salaries in the league keep rising, and the Braves don't have Ted Turner writing checks anymore.

MikeS777
MikeS777

Anyone that thinks the Braves have spent a "ton" of money just because of BJ and Uggla's contracts needs to start looking at the major league salaries closer.  The top hitters and pitchers are all going for $20 million+ per year these days.  Robinson Cano was the top bat in free agency this past year.  He's getting $24 million this year which is about $5 or 6 million away from BJ and Uggla's salaries combined.

BJ and Uggla are not proven veteran leadership.  They were all the Braves could afford.  The Braves salary is literally midway down the majors.  The Dodgers are spending more than double what the Braves are, as well as the Yankees.

The only reason this team is contending at all is the outstanding farm system.  Gone are the days where they can afford to sign back their young talent, and then go get guys like Fred McGriff, Greg Maddux, Galarraga, and Gary Sheffield.  You'd have to pay those players far more than what they were able to shell out for BJ and Uggla.  LM is not allowing them to do that.

Wilbo
Wilbo

If anybody has any question left of any kind as to whether or not our manager is an absolute fool, this quote should erase any & all doubt, "We're a talented club offensively," said Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez. "A very talented club. We can put up numbers offensively. And to get shut out back to back days and three out of four days and only score one run ... it's mind-boggling."


Moron.

BigGuyinGA
BigGuyinGA

The sad part is this team still feels they're in it. They still feel they can catch the Nats and are dangerous if they get in as Wild Card. They're hot streak away from pulling this out. They'll believe this too the bitter end and make little to no changes in the off season

Biff_Pocoroba
Biff_Pocoroba

A corporate owner that doesn't care + an incompetent general manager = guaranteed failure. And even if Fredi Gonzalez was perfect, he couldn't win with this team of hacks.

Jazzpman
Jazzpman

Please the Braves will not fire Fredi or Wren. they actually think they are doing a good JOB !!!!!!!  LOL !

Jazzpman
Jazzpman

Heck who is surprised by this ?  The biggest surprise is if they don't lead the league in strikeouts !


When are they going to fire Wren for the contracts, and the make up of the team ?  Where is the lead off hitter ?


Nice to see Jordan Shaffer doing=g so well in Minnesota, makes me understand how poorly the Braves must be at batting help !

PeteScott
PeteScott

How appropriate the Braves are hitless.......a no-hitter by the Phillies.......against a hapless bunch who can't hit their way out of a wet paper bag.

oldcrackerfan
oldcrackerfan

I quit reading these blogs in the Spring because of all the negativity.  But most of these posts seem pretty realistic.  Back then, everybody was heated up about the long ball and hoping that the Braves would continue to swing for the fences.  I was pretty much shouted down for advocating ABC baseball, as KatieR620 does.  BTW, I see none of the posters who were regulars then, present now.  Now seems a good time for a little history.


On 5/18/04, a forty-year-old Randy Johnson threw a perfect game against the Braves.  The next day, this paper had afront page--not sports page but front page of the paper--article proclaiming the Braves dead.  They won the division by ten games over the Phillies.  Then they got beat badly by the Astros in the division playoff.  Same song, different verse.  

Of course, that was in May, and this isn't.  Maybe this embarrassment will be enough to put a charge in this team--if there are enough guys still capable of being embarrassed.  They have the advantage of pitching but the disadvantage of hitters who don't work the count or hit the ball where it's pitched.  Most of them simply swing too hard and don't even try to control the bat.  Big power numbers bring big contracts; even Wren has admitted that.  But insisting on swinging for the fences, especially pulling the ball, leads to what we've got: a sorry mess. 

KatieR620
KatieR620

Once they get rid of this horrible conceptual idea of offense (get guys on and hope for a 3 run home run)

then maybe they will get better.


This team lacks basic offensive baseball fundamentals.   If they just did the fundamentals well they would play better baseball.  They have shown as an organization that they don't care anything about baserunning,  bunting,  or stealing bases so again fundamentally they fail.   I bet no team hits into shifts more than this one. 

 

Indydawg
Indydawg

Corporate ownership of a team in a town with media who don't give a darn. Part of a great recipe for complacency.


And now they're moving and making people believe that this team is going to get better... Just moving bad product to another part of the store....

Mr. Negative
Mr. Negative

34,000 show up in sweltering heat for this holiday treat. Kids with their dads, learning a prolific lesson about the Legacy. "Dad, what's a BUM?" Mr. Negative grilling steaks outside of Turner, celebrating Fredo and Frankie's Coup de Grace

ChopChamps95
ChopChamps95

I'm more bothered by this team's cavalier attitude towards the situation than I am about the actual game.  To them, its just another game and "it happens but tomorrow's a new day and we'll get after it then."  There is absolutely no urgency from this team about anything.  Its a cultural thing within organization and Fredi is the root of the problem and has been since Bobby hired him.  The moves the higher ups makes in the offseason on the coaching staff as well as the 25 man roster will say all we need to know as fans how much they care about winning and whether they really want to win or just want to put a profitable business venture on the field like we're witnessing this season.

Medawgu
Medawgu

i have been trying to come up with a moniker for this years team and i think i have it;  "Wizards of Whiff" or more appropriately "Wren's Wizards of Whiff". think WWW

dis_g
dis_g

Alleged ATL sports fans, am sick of this.  Your baseball team is still in contention, and has been for years, many cities wold be happy to trade.  Bradley, not bitching at you, about time you said something.  This team is still in the hunt, let's go!

BTC
BTC

This team is dead to me.

Rhetoric
Rhetoric

Fredi's nonchalant attitude and "tipping his cap" to the competition will lead to his firing

if the Braves do not make the playoffs this year.

ShovelPlease
ShovelPlease

It's September 2, 2014, and there's an article about the Braves not being able to hit.  Is this some sort of time warp?  How long has it been since the Braves could be characterized as a good-hitting team?  It's been years.

BeachGaBulldog
BeachGaBulldog

I have said it before and I'll say it again. This team needs to make some major moves.

Meaney
Meaney

BACON IS MY FAVORITE VEGGIE ( ° _ ° )

TreeRollins
TreeRollins

Mark, for once you're a little harsh! The Braves will be fine - they just had a bad day. Won't make the playoffs but who cares! We already knew that. Winning record is good enough to me with this weak roster.

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

Bobby Cox teams got no-hit twice (including a perfect game) and now Freddie once. The poor hitting was always the case in the postseason under Cox and now Freddie has up leveled it to the regular season. Neither of these managers could get the most from his players and I can only hope Freddie goes away much faster than his predecessor.

MikeS777
MikeS777

Well, the Braves have managed to replace Uggla and BJ more or less with players that seem to have better averages, but it's still not producing runs.  They are getting hits but not with runners in scoring position.  Its basically like an every man for himself lineup.

Fredi has to figure out the hitting on this team because it took a nose dive as soon as he took over.  Its not Dan Uggla's fault.  It's not BJ Upton's fault.  This has been a problem for 4 years.

It would help if Liberty Media would loosen the purse strings.  The Braves had to go after Upton and Uggla because they can't afford the bigger bats in free agency.  All they can do is overpay for good, but not great players and bring in journeymen.  That's not going to cut it even if this team actually makes it to the postseason.

In particular, they need a big bat in the middle of the order.  They haven't had that legit cleanup hitter for a while.  A guy who can take the pressure off everyone around him.  If they drop a big bat into the 4 spot, then you have a good lineup around him.

Unfortunately, many of those big bats play positions like 1B or OF.  Freeman is a great player, but he's not a cleanup hitter.  Heyward is not either.  The Braves may have to sacrifice one of them to get a legit cleanup hitter they need.

WilsonYork
WilsonYork

Start the clock on the Cobb County Curse. Suburbanite bumpkins and their white-flight gridlock can have their sorry behinds.

Birdhair
Birdhair

Start by replacing the three stooges, McGuirk, Schuerholz and Wren.

-sea8491

amen brotha. Sadly, it will take a 70 something win season before the ajc calls for the changes needed. The Ajc, especially Bradley, is completely clueless.

CouchPotato
CouchPotato

The game was long gone at this point, but what I don't understand..... why do you pinch hit the MVP of your team, Justin Upton, for Jose Constanza????  When you are trying to break up a no-hitter????? 

BAFFLED!!!!!

BooBooBear
BooBooBear

Here's my version of Freddi Gonzalez' interview after having just gone 0-162, and no-hit in the last game of the season:


"I thought our guys tried hard.  A couple of foul balls were right on ... you know, solidly hit.  We're getting there.  Just put this season behind us and move on from here."


What a player's manager.  They players love Freddi so much they probably went to him before the game and said, "Freddi, because it is Labor Day, can we just lay down and do nothing?"  Of course he said, "Sure.  Fine.  Grreat idea."

bennyhayes
bennyhayes

So-called "pundits" that write about long-suffering Atlanta fans really don't grasp what goes on around here. The fans ARE knowledgeable, and will only put up with so much. If they don't think management is concerned with putting a worthwhile product on the field or court, they will stay away. This organization, now a mid-market team, can learn from St Louis, Oakland, Minnesota(2 World Series titles), and the Miami Marlins.

seminoleking
seminoleking

and bj. upton didnt even play in this one.........pitiful........

TNBulldawg
TNBulldawg

The lack of hitting aside, this is the most lackluster, nonchalant, uninspired professional sports team I have ever seen play. They wear the same expressions, win or lose. No passion...no fire...no emotion. Believe it or not, aside from the way they swing the bats, they are in the middle of a fight for a spot in the playoffs. Never tell it by watching them play...going through the motions, day in and day out. I understand it's a long season, but they are playing for their playoff lives every game. One run in the last 27 innings...wow!! Where are Chipper, Huddy and McCann when you need them...someone who would kick some butt in the clubhouse when needed. Way too many prima donas now.

sea8491
sea8491

Start by replacing the three stooges, McGuirk, Schuerholz and Wren.


Then get rid of the clown, fredi.


John Malone cares less

Hoffman Dogs
Hoffman Dogs

@ShovelPlease there's a hippie band called 'Shovels and Rope' out of Charleston.  Now I know where they got the name--watching Braves games.

Baghead
Baghead

@TreeRollins Why is a winning record good enough for you?  Get out of this city.  It's fair weathered fans like you that make this place loserville.  I want a WS.

SaveAmericaFromItself
SaveAmericaFromItself

@TreeRollins 

Spoken like a typical Atlanta sports fan, content with mediocrity.

Braves had a bad day? ONE RUN scored in the last 3 games.

Thank you, Frank Wren !

TreeRollins
TreeRollins

You have no clue - Fredi is fine, Frank Wren is the problem. I'd like to see you do better with this roster!

BooBooBear
BooBooBear

@MikeS777 I wondering what your definition of a "clean-up hitter" is.  When the bases are loaded with no one out, it would be nice if the Braves had a "hitter" of any kind.  Put a 50 HR - 130 RBI man in this lineup and everyone would go, "Whew.  Now we don't have to try so hard."  No one would be on base to "clean-up."  This team needs a MANAGER and he needs to hire potential managers to coach the players so they play up to their potential.  With this group they have no incentive to do anything, good or bad.  It is coached now like the Braves were in a California T-ball league where they don't keep score.

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

@MikeS777  Sure, the Braves lack a big veteran bat in the lineup. The veteran leadership was SUPPOSED to be Uggla and BJ. What's left, these may be the right players but this may not be the right year. Freeman is 24, Heyward is 25, Justin is 27, Gattis is 28.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@MikeS777

LM's purse strings have nothing to do with it. They've spent a ton of money; it's just that most of it has been spent unwisely.

SaveAmericaFromItself
SaveAmericaFromItself

@MikeS777 

Liberty Media loosen the purse strings? Why, so Frank Wren can continue to overpay for mediocre players ?

What happened to the great farm system the Braves used to have? Getting top draft picks do not guarantee success. Otherwise, the Astros and Cubs would be annual contenders.


As long as the Braves draw 2.3 million + a season at Turner Field and sell overpriced beer & concessions, the stockholders will continue to make a modest profit and Liberty Media will do absolutely nothing. Winning is not a primary objective with Liberty.

58Supersports
58Supersports

@WilsonYork  Nothing to do with COBB CO..What's your problem using the "White" flight gridlock, you racist. Have you been to Cobb lately?

SaveAmericaFromItself
SaveAmericaFromItself

@WilsonYork 

We are two full seasons away from the Braves in Cobb County.

The bigger issue is will the Braves be any better in 2017 than it is now?

With Frank Wren making the big decisions, big bucks still owed Uggla & BJ, and the farm system devoid of any real promising prospects above AA, I'm fearful we will be looking at the late 80s all over again.

MikeS777
MikeS777

@WilsonYork This has nothing to do with Cobb County.  The Braves have hit below .250 as a team since Gonzalez and his staff took over.  Cox's teams never hit below .250 and usually were hitting .260 and above.

drew56
drew56

@Birdhair 

Yeah, right...'cause everybody knows the AJC calls the shots for the Braves!

SaveAmericaFromItself
SaveAmericaFromItself

@TreeRollins 

Yeah, How come Fredi didn't bat Heyward lower in the lineup, or give him the day off knowing Jason hits .150 against lefthanders?

About to be NO-HIT, Why did Fredi bench Justin Upton, the August player of the month, and pinch-hit for him with a journeyman minor leaguer?  

TreeRollins
TreeRollins

SaveAmerica makes a lot of good comments - read them!

Birdhair
Birdhair

@drew56 @Birdhair Media plays a signifcant role. One of the big reasons why Atlanta is sports losersville is because of our Atlanta sports writers. They support mediocrity and they are afraid to criticize management.

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS

@SaveAmericaFromItself @TreeRollins


Heyward had 2 walks and THREE stolen bases....Heyward is NOT the problem..even though he is not a lead off hitter! He DID HIS JOB! 


Benching Justin and pinch hitting for him was the most moronic thing to ever do!